{"id":2065,"date":"2003-04-15T19:58:28","date_gmt":"2003-04-15T19:58:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bob.ryskamp.org\/brain\/?p=2065"},"modified":"2003-04-15T19:58:28","modified_gmt":"2003-04-15T19:58:28","slug":"lecture-fred-turner-from-counterculture-to-cyberculture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bob.ryskamp.org\/brain\/lecture-fred-turner-from-counterculture-to-cyberculture\/","title":{"rendered":"LECTURE: Fred Turner, &#8220;From Counterculture to Cyberculture&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I attended <a href=\"http:\/\/hci.stanford.edu\/cs547\/abstracts\/02-03\/030411-turner.html\">a lecture<\/a> (<a href=\"http:\/\/stanford-online.stanford.edu\/courses\/cs547\/030411-cs547-100.asx\">video<\/a>, MS Media Player required) by <a href=\"http:\/\/communication.stanford.edu\/faculty\/turner.html\">Fred Turner<\/a>, Professor of <a href=\"http:\/\/communication.stanford.edu\/index.html\">Communications<\/a> at Stanford University. The lecture, titled &#8220;From Counterculture to Cyberculture: How The Whole Earth Catalog Brought Us &#8216;Virtual Community'&#8221;, narrated the history of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wholeearthmag.com\/\">Whole Earth<\/a>\/<a href=\"http:\/\/www.well.com\">The WELL<\/a>\/<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\">Wired<\/a> transition and provided some interesting insights about how physical communities can influence virtual ones and vice verse.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nTurner began his career as a journalist, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/redirect?tag=bobdesigns-20&#038;path=tg\/detail\/-\/0816635498\/qid%3D1050452074\/sr%3D8-1\">writing about Vietnam<\/a>. During that experience, he noticed how computers during Vietnam were symbols of a mechanized society, be it as war tools or just as a male-dominated sub-culture, much like mechanized governments were at the time. After finishing that research, he noticed a very different attitude in the computer culture emerging in California in the late 1990s. There, computers were exactly the opposite symbol&#8211;they stood for freedom of expression, rebellion against old ways, and a new attitude of &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.turnpoint.org\/techno.html\">techno-utopianism<\/a>&#8220;.<\/p>\n<p>Turner chronicled the evolution of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/tg\/detail\/-\/0062510592\/104-9378608-3747937?vi=glance\">Whole Earth Catalog<\/a> community as it grew with technology. Founded by Stuart Brand in Menlo Park, the catalog aimed to provide a resource for those interested in a commune-like lifestyle. Items were both gathered by staff writers and submitted by readers. This resulted in a &#8220;celebration of new, enabling technologies&#8221; (reminded me of &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.boingboing.net\">a directory of wonderful things<\/a>&#8220;), listed over 400 pages. It followed a remarkable system of openness, including a full accounting of all expenses the catalog incurred. This was especially important to the catalog&#8217;s target readership, those concerned with honesty and community.<\/p>\n<p>As part of this search and the desire to enable this new lifestyle, the group began to stumble upon technologies that made this community-building much easier. This took form most famously in the founding of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.well.com\">The WELL<\/a> (Whole Earth &#8216;Lectronic &#8216;Link) in 1985 by Stuart Brand and Larry Brilliant. Brand had been exposed to technology through the ill-fated Whole Earth Software Catalog and his work with Ken Kesey and the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.intrepidtrips.com\/\">Merry Pranksters<\/a> as their filmmaking publicist. Brand was adept enough with technology to be the camera operator at &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/wesley.stanford.edu\/computer_history\/moademos.htm\">The Mother of all Demos<\/a>&#8220;, with Doug Englebart at SRI in 1962. These were the first instances of counterculture and cyberculture converging.<\/p>\n<p>The key to the WELL&#8217;s success, Turner argued, may have been the inclusion of journalists. Everyone online paid a fee to use the service&#8211;except for journalists. Just as the counterculture became involved in technology by using it, journalists became involved in technology by talking about it. Writers such as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rheingold.com\">Howard Rheingold<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kk.org\/\">Kevin Kelley<\/a> participated heavily (and years later, are the &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.edge.org\/digerati\/kelly\/index.html\">saint<\/a>&#8221; and &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.edge.org\/digerati\/rheingold\/index.html\">citizen<\/a>&#8221; of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.edge.org\/digerati\/\">technology<\/a>). Everyone contributed, everyone benefited.<\/p>\n<p>Turner&#8217;s next point was about how the mindset of these counterculture types formed the public&#8217;s mind about technology. Again, the journalists were the key. Rheingold, especially, was prescient in his predictions of technology shaping culture, first in &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/redirect?tag=bobdesigns-20&#038;path=tg\/detail\/-\/0262681218\/qid%3D1050460170\/sr%3D1-7\">Virtual Communites<\/a>&#8221; and again in &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/redirect?tag=bobdesigns-20&#038;path=tg\/detail\/-\/0738206083\/qid%3D1050460170\/sr%3D1-1\">Smart Mobs<\/a>&#8220;. His books constitute the &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/redirect?tag=bobdesigns-20&#038;path=tg\/detail\/-\/0316346624\/qid%3D1050460341\/sr%3D1-1\">Tipping Point<\/a>&#8221; (props to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gladwell.com\">Malcolm Gladwell<\/a>) when media, commerce, government start to realize the potential that the geeks (sorry, &#8220;early adopters&#8221;) have known all along.<\/p>\n<p>Turner wrapped up by answering a question about how the future of online communities looked. Interestingly, he pointed to online communities as being less stand-along entities and more as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.discover.com\/may_03\/feattech.html\">supplements to existing communities<\/a> (cool article by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.stevenberlinjohnson.com\">Steven Johnson<\/a>). Less new groups, more in-depth old groups. Sounds good to me&#8211;anything that keeps technology as a route instead of a destination sounds a bit more natural than the alternative. Despite my <a href=\"..\/technology\/mozart_the_librarian.html\">recent enjoyment of it<\/a>, I would rather not just <a href=\"..\/personal\/so_very_productive.html\">push pixels<\/a> for the rest of my life.<\/p>\n<p>**UPDATE** In my excitement over technology&#8217;s possibility, I forgot to mention two dystopian visions of an online future, both mentioned by Turner in his talk: <a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20020617173839\/http:\/\/semlab2.sbs.sunysb.edu\/Users\/pludlow\/humdog.html\">a posting by &#8220;humdog&#8221;<\/a> on the WELL criticizing its nature and the way it lacked &#8220;the weight of reality&#8221;; and the philosophy of Netwar (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/search-handle-url\/index=books&#038;field-keywords=netwar&#038;search-type=ss&#038;bq=1\/104-9378608-3747937\">3 books out now<\/a>) by John Arquilla, a war planner for the Navy. Good to keep in mind . . .<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I attended a lecture (video, MS Media Player required) by Fred Turner, Professor of Communications at Stanford University. The lecture, titled &#8220;From Counterculture to Cyberculture: How The Whole Earth Catalog Brought Us &#8216;Virtual Community&#8217;&#8221;, narrated the history of the Whole Earth\/The WELL\/Wired transition and provided some interesting insights about how physical communities can influence virtual&#8230;<a class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/bob.ryskamp.org\/brain\/lecture-fred-turner-from-counterculture-to-cyberculture\/\">more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[121],"tags":[122,125,124,126,123],"class_list":["post-2065","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-lectures","tag-fred-turner","tag-howard-rheingold","tag-stanford-hci","tag-the-well","tag-whole-earth-catalog"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p9wjHJ-xj","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bob.ryskamp.org\/brain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2065","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bob.ryskamp.org\/brain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bob.ryskamp.org\/brain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bob.ryskamp.org\/brain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bob.ryskamp.org\/brain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2065"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/bob.ryskamp.org\/brain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2065\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bob.ryskamp.org\/brain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2065"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bob.ryskamp.org\/brain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2065"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bob.ryskamp.org\/brain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2065"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}